An interesting topic today, and one for which I don't really have the answer.
I posted pictures of the deliberately un-named girl below on here a few months ago as part of a "introducing new girls" topic. I also posted a few pictures of her on my Twitter feed and named her on there although did not tag her as I didn't know she had an account. She found the post and asked me via a third party to take it down as it was causing her problems with her followers, friends and her financial slaves. She had received payment for the scene and signed a model release form.
Going back 10 years ago I filmed 4 scenes with the lovely Robyn Hunter, who received payment and signed a model release form. I recently received correspondence from a company selling my dvds under license, asking if I had the model release form for the shoot with Robyn as she was requesting the dvds she featured on to be removed from sale. Her reason was that at the time she thought the scenes were for private consumption only, not for a published porn site. Utter nonsense!
I am unable to find the paperwork, my fault I know, but as a result I have no choice but to agree to the removal from sale of the titles in question. These are not isolated incidents. Very recently two other very popular debutants from this year contacted me requesting I remove posts of them on Twitter. These are full time models that signed a model release and received payment for each scene.
To be clear, a model release form effectively gives me the right to do with the images whatever I wish. So is it right to refuse to remove or un-tag girls if they are getting grief? If I do so should I get the modelling fee back? Or is it just a case of tough shit babe? Answers on a postcard...............
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If they don't want the grief don't sign up to do it don't give the money back
meant to say ask for the money back ore picks they wanted to do it at the time no one forced them to do it
thinking of subscribing what do I get with my subscription thanks
If you like to keep things private then may I suggest that you don't sign up to do porn. Just common sense isn't it?
Short answer is the you are in the right Sneaky.
no one holds a gun to there head if they don't want to have there friend's see or comment on the content then don't do it it is on the internet for a long time
On an unrelated topic...I was really disappointed with the latest scene on a toilet. It could be safely called 'audio' rather than 'video' - absolutely NOTHING to see there. Wasn't that obvious? 'No time to go outside' excuse is just that - an excuse. She could've squatted on the toilet rim at least. Also, more recent Michelle Barrett videos have been far cry from those of (too many) years ago, both in her appearance and especially composition. What's the point to shoot her from the top?! It's just against the common sense! NOTHING to see there too. Finally, there have been some very attractive models lately, but a fair number of plain hmm...VERY UNATTRACTIVE (to put it mildly), too. Not talking about, nor expecting supermodels here, but you know what I mean.
Its a real shame about robyn hunter, she was very gorgeous. She packed it in very quickly though. wonder what she will do about her other videos in the pee devil range !!
If a model has signed a release form and been paid for the work then i'm afraid its tough shit. Trouble is they get older have kids and realise what shit is out there that they did when they were younger.
Jessica/Nikki scene from December 17 was totally botched. First, the grass OBVIOUSLY obstructed the view, so it was hard to see most of the action, second by constantly moving the camera from one girl to another, none of them were properly covered as a result, especially Nikki. Sneaky, you have had years of experience shooting perfect scenes before. These lousy things could've been justified if were shot by some amateur, but you?! What happened?!
The Ayla clip was probably a mistake, but I was asked.
Michelle Barrett was shot last year by her partner as she stopped doing shoots with anyone else. It was made clear in the clip descriptions. We will not be doing it again.
Unattractive rather depends on a personal opinion. I get who I can, which is not easy these days. Girls make more money filming their own clips and selling them as a single download.
The scene from 17 December, I thought I had made it clear and that it looked pretty clear what had gone on. Utter panic frankly! There was no time for direction, no time for niceties, no time to start again and certainly no time to shoot one girl after the other as I normally do. This was real desperation. Not faked or staged. Two girls properly about to lose control in public. I actually thought you guys would like it.
Link for scene from 17 December is broken (for those of us not having currently a subscription). Could you fix it please? I would like to get an idea what you are talking about
Thanks for the heads up, should be fixed now
Interesting thread. One thing striking me is the comment about 'unattractive' girls. Maybe the author is blessed with stunning good looks themselves, but beauty it is a subjective thing. There is beauty in everyone. So say if the author were walking home from the pub some night and saw some girl squatting for a pee would you look and say, oh no you're not attractive enough and walk away? Yea right.
As for the main subject Robyn, well one has to feel a certain sympathy with the girl but at the end of the day she is the one who has changed her point of view. In fairness 'sneaky' is up front and consistent. It is an adult site with a single subject. That has never changed. Surely any model signing up must realise this fact? The site has been consistent since day 1, an adult site featuring girls peeing, whilst unfortunate for her she cannot expect a such a website to suddenly change just to cover any regret she now has?
As for the discussion on the merits of the ' Jessica/Nikki ' scene I guess you can't please all of the people all of the time. I have sometimes viewed a small number of scenes I wasn't mad about but always thought well someone likes it.
Keep up the good work your site 'sneaky' is first rate.
'So say if the author were walking home from the pub some night and saw some girl squatting for a pee would you look and say, oh no you're not attractive enough and walk away? Yea right.' - you forgot one important thing - I WOULDN'T HAVE PAY anything to see her, so I could've stopped just out of curiosity only. And if found her really ugly, I would probably continue on my way without stopping at all. I've been a member (on and off) since the very early days, have seen hundreds of beautiful (and not so) girls and have admired Sneaky's work since then. THERE IS NO CRITIQUE JUST FOR THE SAKE OF CRITIQUE, I'm just trying to be fair and honest. P.S. Still don't get it, why ladies are so hard to find for filming these days. Who refuses to make an honest extra buck/pound in these tough times?!
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